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Cat on LSD
>> ^diction:
If edits and music still don't save it from being a dupe, what does?


Something that actually contributes a meaningful change. Here's an example:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Monkey-Waiters-in-Japan
http://www.videosift.com/video/Monkey-waiters-in-Japanese-restaurant

While both of those clips share mostly the same video, except one has commentary added that explains what is going on. Something significant is added with narration and backstory. With this video, it is the same clip shortened with background music. Accepting that as a significant change means we can have multiple copies of all the generic football in the groin type videos (or any other common popular clips) as long as someone shortened it and added different music.

Edit for Blankfist

So then change the part of the FAQ that says: "Minor changes in content, like a few additional insignificant seconds of video or alternate background music, will still be considered dupes." That should clear the problem up.


written by Lurch  | 21 hours 15 minutes 59 seconds ago | CH
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Cat on LSD
Uh... it's a shorter version of the same exact video with different audio. The audio makes no significant difference to the content. I don't think it would be fair to just discard it, but I'd like to *discuss it and reach a final decision on whether or not it is a dupe.


written by Lurch  | 23 hours 38 minutes 3 seconds ago | CH
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Cat on LSD
From the FAQ:

"Duplicates will be discarded. A duplicate video is one which contains content already on VideoSift in a published, queued, personal queued, or dead video submission. Minor changes in content, like a few additional insignificant seconds of video or alternate background music, will still be considered dupes. The only exception to this is if the change in audio makes a significant difference to the video content."

So, I agree with gwiz. Dupe.


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NordlichReiter (Member Profile)
Heh. I don't know what's worse. Drunk channel assignments, or that I watched it three times trying to find out if I was missing some awesome political joke.

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Not sure, this post was hella off when I looked at it again this morning. Maybe I was a in a rush, I think it may be due to the Guinness though.

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How is this an Election08 sift?



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How is this an Election08 sift?


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shuac (Member Profile)
There's nothing really bad about that. Hell, you were watching the government essentially waltzing into people's houses or holding them at gunpoint to take their property. That's pretty powerful stuff and it made me furious when I saw it. I think it is very important though how this was quickly resolved legally, and even followed up later with the Supreme Court overturning the DC gun ban which will make it even more difficult for this type of behavior to occur in the future. Anyway, I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to own a gun because of this. There *is* something wrong with owning one without knowing how to use it responsibly in my opinion. If you're serious about wanting a gun, and since you said you have never held one before in your life, looking into shooting ranges in your area that let you do some target practice and offer some safety lessons is a good place to start.

In reply to this comment by shuac:
You make good points, Lurch, and I hope you're right.

My original comment (the "which is worse" thing) was less about supporting a ban/tax and more about asking the OP where he stands: subverting the constitution, about which Bush feels he is beyond reproach, or legislating a ban or tax on guns, thus keeping it civil, legal, and most importantly allowing for it to be blocked, civilly and legally. It's a false choice, yes, but then...so is our presidential election. I'm kidding. Sort of.

Jokes aside, watching those vids of New Orleans cops taking guns away from citizens kind of made me want to get a gun. Is that bad?



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shuac (Member Profile)
Yeah, I've thought about that before and I wouldn't call it meaningless. I think if you are talking on a national scale (which is highly fictional), the element of surprise used on Katrina victims would be gone after the first round of confiscations. Also, the amount of force the federal government would have to employ with fully complicit local agencies of all types to perform a nationwide confiscation is a serious deterrant to it ever happening. The risks and problems outweigh any rewards. Once it was known that weapons were being taken, you can bet the general reaction would be much more violent than during Katrina. It would be far easier and more realistic to achieve the same goals by slowly erroding gun rights over time and pushing for legal means to disarm.

Also, I don't see why someone who fears that the government *could* take weapons by force if they wanted to would think it was logical to support bans and unreasonable restrictions. I'm not saying you in particular since you didn't really mention specifics on your position, but it's something I've noticed having this conversation with others. It just seems incongruous to me since this argument of "you couldn't fight back anyway" comes up a lot. To me it is like saying, "I don't think I could stop them from illegally taking my guns if they wanted to, so I'll support laws that make it legal for them to do so." I think if private firearms are going to be taken en masse in this country it will be through slow and calculated legislation "for our own protection," not by force.

In reply to this comment by shuac:
Well, I'm glad for that. And while I'm normally anti-gun and having never once held a gun in all my 40 years, I watched all the footage of the Sheriffs taking people's guns away in sheer horror. The NRA had the chance to litigate this issue afterward only because the worst had not happened.

But imagine for a moment (taking the founding fathers' original intentions of the 2nd amendment and applying them to today's world, something I never thought we'd have to do), that if the time ever comes that we'd need an armed populace for the purpose of defending the Constitution, a job normally done by our elected officials...then the government has proven that all they need to do to prevent that from happening is to merely walk up to that armed populace and literally take their guns away.

It took a hurricane to demonstrate to the powers that be that the 2nd amendment is meaningless. After the "big moment" has passed us by and the population has been disarmed, there will be no court date.

Again, I'm normally anti-NRA so you can imagine my disappointment.

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>> ^shuac:
Which is worse: 1) making an attempt to legislate a ban/tax on firearms of these kinds which puts it up to be legitimately 'shot down' (hehe) or 2) proclaiming yourself pro-NRA and having your police force take citizens' guns away anyway...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgPR9I4KMNI

Seriously. I'm asking. Which is worse?


Well, the NRA actually took that to court and got all the firearms returned. They're also currently fighting in DC over making sure the government follows through after the ban was overturned. So, in the end, the NRA still prevailed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_re_us/katrina_confiscated_guns
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27087738/



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ant (Member Profile)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtPvR10E0_k

Is this the same clip as the dead one? I didn't want to just fix it with the wrong trailer.

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Can't find a replacement.


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Kid Chokes Dove at Ceremony
Dupe

http://www.videosift.com/video/A-Dove-Symbol-of-Peace-Gracefully-Takes-Flight-anduh-oh


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>> ^shuac:
Which is worse: 1) making an attempt to legislate a ban/tax on firearms of these kinds which puts it up to be legitimately 'shot down' (hehe) or 2) proclaiming yourself pro-NRA and having your police force take citizens' guns away anyway...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgPR9I4KMNI

Seriously. I'm asking. Which is worse?


Well, the NRA actually took that to court and got all the firearms returned. They're also currently fighting in DC over making sure the government follows through after the ban was overturned. So, in the end, the NRA still prevailed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_re_us/katrina_confiscated_guns
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27087738/


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Palin abused power, probe finds (Politics Talk Post)
Another article from MSN with a little more clarification on what this is about:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1531677.aspx

They didn't actually find anything unethical about the firings. The abuse of power claims are based around accusations of her knowlingly allowing her husband to be involved somehow. Problem is they don't seem to have any actual evidence. Just statements that they couldn't prove a personal connection, but since they couldn't disprove one either it must be true. Here's an article from the Anchorage Daily News detailing the trooper that was fired:

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html

Just about everything that was in question ethically happened even before Palin ran for office. Also, the things Palin claimed caused her to fear this guy were all substantiated by the trooper's record. They had police statements from before Palin even ran for office where Wooten threatened family members and was physically abusive. I think this will only become big if something more concrete comes out of it. Like if it actually makes its way to the Alaska Personnel Board and they find that she actually broke the law (which is unlikely). I would also expect Obama's campaign to run with this too if it really carried any serious weight.

I do like this part of the BBC article since it sums up what I think pretty nicely:

"The US presidential race has now become so polarised both Republicans and Democrats will likely see the report's findings as vindication for their own trenchant views about Mrs Palin, says the BBC's Richard Lister in Washington.

Alaska's governor will either be seen as the victim of a Democratic party hatchet job, or a hypocrite.

Most voters, for now at least, seem more concerned about who will extract them from the current economic crisis, rather than any questions about political infighting in far-off Alaska, our correspondent adds."


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